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UN’ORA E MEZZO DI CONVERSAZIONE CHE QUALCUNO HA REGISTRATO, UNO SCANDALO POLITICO SIMILE A QUELLO CHE IN AUSTRIA HA PORTATO ALLE DIMISSIONI IL VICEPREMIER SOVRANISTA

RU2: I think we have to have a common mutual interest with them.
RU1: Is everything fine with logistics? How will he get 4%?
RU2: It will work out.
RU3: He’ll just claim the cost is 4% and this is it.
RU2: From what I understood, they don’t want to earn money, but they are interested. I mean they must be interested too.
RU3: Sure, if we’ll make 6%.
RU2: Let’s say [INAUDIBLE], so they can get some money out of this deal.
[Russian ends]
RU2: Of course I understand that also mini deals should be for both sides of course. We think that you also have to get some additional commission in this case included above 4%.
IT2: Why not? But you know, so far it’s not professional issue, is just a political issue. So we, I do not count we, he’s not counting to make money out of it. We count on sustaining a political campaign, which is of benefit, I would say of mutual benefit for the two countries.
Having said so, if the reason there is space for you to organize a bigger discount, my first answer is 4% for us is enough, provided there is an open credit so we do not have costs for the financial instrument. I would say they have made their plans on 4% net, so if you now say it’s 10% discount, I would say 6% is yours. OK? Of course we can sit at the table, but I think this is not my field anymore, but it’s easy because they have the authority to discuss. But if the first question is what do I get if I make a greater discount, I would say you get all, anything on top 4%, we don’t need it.
[In Russian]
RU1: Is it prosecutable legally or criminally?
RU2: It’s standard. The thing that [INAUDIBLE] is talking about is one company signing the contract with another company, getting a fee and doing nothing.
RU1: All right.
RU2: In this case the fourth company is not necessary. We have to talk about this with the Comrade.
RU1: OK. Now we need to confirm fuel type? Or we have no questions about the fuel?
RU3: We know the quantity.
RU2: Well, we discussed 250,000 per month and the contract for a year. We will get diesel, if we won’t be able to get aviation kerosene.
RU1: Do we have any alternatives?
RU3: Talk again about diesel and kerosene.
RU1: Do they know about that?
[Russian ends]
RU2: We also discussed the type of fuel which you are interested in. Probably will be possible to get some quantity for aviation fuel, either 100,000, 200,000, but anyway we will try to get because you mentioned that it’s big amount [INAUDIBLE] for aviation fuel.
RU1: (in Russian) I’m simply thinking about the fact that the more we offer the boss, the more we will have, and if we will offer specifically, then…
RU2: So we will try to make contract for both type.
IT2: And if it is difficult for the aviation fuel, don’t worry. Maybe we can either find a different product or maybe we can put as we were saying in Rome, we replace with ULSD. if it is 500,000 of ULSD, is OK with us.
[In Russian]
RU2: This is not a problem if…
RU1: Will he [one of the Italians] add something else to the list just in case? I mean not quantity, but type of products. Will he add something else to the list?
[Russian ends]
RU2: I ask about, about maybe in air aviation, we have a problem because it’s…
IT2: Don’t do it.
RU2: It’s [INAUDIBLE] license, I have another specification fuel for this list.
IT2: You just tell me and I will check the market if this is a product that I can sell.
RU2: But you have to give us the name of this type of fuel and we add to this list that we will give to the [INAUDIBLE] prime minister. We are thinking about this.
IT2: OK
RU2: We thinking about this. Today two points of fuel, first is diesel, second is aviation, but maybe we will add another type of diesel would be a solution.
IT2: I can check. I have to ask the responsible of the, it’s called the distillates desk. The desk of distillates is aviation, is benzine, is gasoil. I will ask him whether this is another type of product we are in a position to sell at a good price, because if the price is very big and we get 4% discount, you know there is no deal. But I will check. But who am I supposed to… Because at this stage I think the best would be to write via email with him. So the .su domain. Because he has an email .su.
RU1: (in Russian) So! Let’s talk about the new type [of fuel]. If there will be a need for it, he will let you know.
IT2: We can also use WhatsApp. WhatsApp is better.
RU2: WhatsApp or Telegram.
[In Russian]
RU1: Did you get contact information? Did you leave your contact information? What are the other questions we have?
RU3: We need to tell them that we are expecting Vladimir Nikolaevich’s return. We are waiting for him. Hopefully we’ll get the green light next week.
RU1: I was thinking about something else… I feel like I need to fly back.
[Russian ends]
RU2: We are waiting for Mr. Pligin to return when to discuss.
IT2: He is away? He left Russia?
RU2: Moscow.
IT2: Ah, Moscow. Not Russia. I had looked into this case. Then I will just say no, he is not on red alert in Interpol he’s not…
RU2: So it’s possible to [INAUDIBLE]
IT: It’s possible if he wants to come to Italy we can organize it, but it is possible nobody is checking the name of his passport. OK.
[In Russian]
RU2: Let’s talk again about the business trip to Italy.
RU3: We already talked about it, Sasha, don’t go off script! Everything’s going to be fine.
RU1: I talked to Vladimiv Nikolaevich. He said he doesn’t want to [go to Italy].
RU3: Oh! He doesn’t want to?! We have to explain that to our Italian colleagues that [INAUDIBLE] we were talking about just now.
Russian ends]
RU2: So we will discuss this [INAUDIBLE] three companies, those who discuss the price, potential commission might be more than 4% discount.
IT2: Might be better. I think both sides have to be comfortable with whatever we need to do. It’s not easy. There are lots of hidden problems. The vessel is late. Or the vessel uploads and port authorities, Russian port authorities, say no, you cannot go. There are lots of hidden problems. Let’s make it easy from the beginning.
RU2: So Eni will use its own ships?
IT2: Eni has its own ships, but normally it depends on where the upload boat is, because might, might be more convenient to ask, for instance, Esse Di Maria [sp?], one of the biggest logistics companies, or some other company depending on where to go. So Eni has their own ships, but normally the Eni ships are up to 50,000, so the best in order to save on delivery cost would be to have at least one Aframax. Aframax is a cargo category up to 250,000.
RU2: For example, is for Baltic Sea, we can also only up to 120.
IT2: Baltic?
RU2: Yes. As for Novorossiysk, we will check.
IT2: You have Transneft there, so maybe they just open the pipeline, they upload and they go.
[In Russian]
RU1: We should discuss ports.
RU2: We are talking about this now. There are options of delivery to Baltic and Black Sea.
RU3: [INAUDIBLE] small ships.
RU2: There are additional costs. If it is the port in Rotterdam, we could get costs higher due to the fact that there will be a commission. We’ll get it. Although Janko said 4% is enough for them. There will be no problem.
[Russian ends]
IT2: I think that maybe the next effort should be our joint effort should be concentrated on timetable. If we are very quick, but we need to be very, very quick, then I think first delivery might be in November and which I don’t think it’s up to you but we have to be very quick.
RU2: Also I agree with you because we have to act very quickly.
[In Russian]
RU2: According to Janko, it’s better to create [INCOMPREHENSIBLE] from the very beginning.
RU1: We should act quickly. We agree with Gianluca.
RU2: If it is simpler, it will start working sooner.

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